Listen to this episode from The Trialogue on Spotify. Leonard Benardo, Senior Vice President at the Open Society Foundations, joins us to discuss OSF’s emergence and evolution, defining values of open societies, and heterodox thinking for turbulent times.Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify to stay updated with the latest episodes!*The Trialogue Podcast is hosted by the Stimson Center and produced by University FM.Time Stamps:01:29 – Lenny Benardo’s Biography05:20 – Origins of OSF’s Name and Mission09:23 – The “Wild East” and OSF’s Work in the Former Soviet Union16:55 – OSF’s Approach to Russia, Post-Soviet States, and Eastern Europe18:53 – Conceptualizing Human Rights22:06 – Western Foundations, Domestic Politics, and the Case of Hungary25:01 – Tensions Between Nationalism and Liberal Universalism30:14 – Dynamics of EU Expansion36:36 – “Open Society” as a Concept Today38:42 – Ideas Versus Action47:45 – Lessons Learned for Approaching China50:43 – Future of Transatlantic Relationship54:28 – The Status of American Empire Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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